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You think U.S. politics have never been worse? It has, says this Utah professor and podcaster.

“The challenges ahead of us are not any greater than challenges we have previously surmounted and overcome,” said UVU professor Greg Jackson.

(Gabriel Mayberry for Greg Jackson) Greg Jackson, a Utah Valley University history professor and creator of the "History That Doesn't Suck" podcast has written a new book, "Been There, Done That," exploring periods of conflict and in American history to point out political turmoil is not new and the nation is resilient.

(Gabriel Mayberry for Greg Jackson) Greg Jackson, a Utah Valley University history professor and creator of the "History That Doesn't Suck" podcast has written a new book, "Been There, Done That," exploring periods of conflict and in American history to point out political turmoil is not new and the nation is resilient.