Former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci begins some days with President Donald Trump attacking him on Twitter. That’s what happened Friday shortly before he appeared as a guest on the “Utah Politics” podcast.

“I have to be totally candid. It was unnerving the first time it happened,” Saramucci told host Bryan Schott. “The second time he did it, I actually enjoyed it. And now, it puts me in a terrifically good mood because it means I’m being effective.”

Trump’s ire was raised after C-SPAN’s Steve Scully tweeted at Scaramucci earlier this month asking if he should respond to Trump’s attacks on him. Scully originally claimed his Twitter had been hacked, but was suspended after admitting that was a lie.

Last year, Scaramucci tried to recruit Utah Sen. Mitt Romney to challenge Trump for the GOP nomination. Those efforts ultimately proved fruitless.

“Mitt is a great human being. He would have made an amazing president,” said Scaramucci sounding wistful.

“Think about this. What if he was elected in 2012? If he had been reelected in 2016, and we would be ending the Mitt Romney administration right now. Trust me, America would have been a much different place,” he said.

Listen to the full interview with Scaramucci below. Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts.