Mormon bishops and the counsel they give spouses in abusive marriages are in the news.

What should — or should not — these lay leaders say and do in these confidential conversations?

David Cook, a former LDS bishop, stake president and area Seventy, and Alice Faulkner Burch, president of the all-female Relief Society for the Genesis Group of black Mormons, discuss those questions and more in the latest edition of “Mormon Land.”

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