‘Utah Politics’ podcast: Talking about the 2020 homestretch with National Journal’s Josh Kraushaar

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Those PSAs from Republican Spencer Cox and Democrat Chris Peterson calling for more civility in politics are a “good example” for the rest of the nation says National Journal’s Josh Kraushaar.

“Utah is a model by which a lot of politicians and people who are engaged in politics could learn from,” said Kraushaar. “It shows voters you care about principles more than partisan politics.”

Kraushaar was a guest on the “Utah Politics” podcast. He said there are a handful of governors around the country who have been able to remove themselves from the tribalism currently informing our politics.

“In my neck of the woods, Maryland, you have Larry Hogan, the Republican governor who is writing in Ronald Reagan as his presidential pick. There are several governors who have found it refreshing to break away from the partisanship in Washington,” he said.

Kraushaar also discussed the state of the 2020 presidential race, what the massive early voter turnout might mean, and why he says Republicans could be in real trouble in November.

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