Following last week’s bombastic presidential debate, Americans might be hoping for a more sedate event when Vice President Mike Pence and Sen. Kamala Harris meet on the debate stage Wednesday in Salt Lake City.

“I think it will be a more substantive debate than what we saw in last week’s debacle,” says Rev. Al Sharpton, host of MSNBC’s “Politics Nation.”

“I don’t think it will devolve into fisticuffs,” he added.

Sharpton was a guest on the most recent episode of the “Utah Politics” podcast. He told host Bryan Schott that Pence and Harris will be able to discuss the issues without resorting to interruptions and theatrics.

Sharpton says both Pence and Harris are seasoned debaters, which should make for the opposite of what we saw last week.

“I think it will be a good night for Kamala Harris, but I do not think you ought to underestimate Mike Pence. I think you will see a real exchange of some of the best talent on what we call the left and the right in this country. And I think the voters will be the beneficiaries,” says Sharpton.

Sharpton also discussed the Black Lives Matter protests following the killing of George Floyd and whether he believes President Donald Trump is a man of faith.

Sharpton is the author of the new book “Rise Up: Confronting a Country at the Crossroads.”

You can listen to the full interview below.

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