
(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) A man who did not wish to give his name had a message for Salt Lake City Mayor Erin Mendenhall at Back the Blue rally in support of law enforcement, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Hillary Jessup of Park City smiles at former House Speaker Greg Hughes who held Jessup's flag at Back the Blue rally in support of law enforcement, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Supporters of law enforcement gather at Back the Blue rally, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Colton Welch, left, and his father Ken Welch, right, talk with a fellow supporters at Back the Blue rally in support of law enforcement, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Steve Stevenson and fellow supporters of law enforcement gather at Back the Blue rally, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Supporters of law enforcement gather at Back the Blue rally, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Colton Welch pauses during a moment of silence in support of officers who lost their lives in the line of duty at a Back the Blue rally in support of law enforcement, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Joe Asi holding a sign that read "Defend the Police" get his picture taken with fellow supporters of law enforcement gathered at Back the Blue rally, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) A few Back the Blue supporters kept an eye out for protesters at the rally in support of law enforcement, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Vicki Crist wipes tears from her eyes as Heidi Knickerbocker sings a song about an officer who dies in the line of duty at Back the Blue rally in support of law enforcement, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Alexis Wheeler and her husband Rick join in prayer at Back the Blue rally in support of law enforcement, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) For a brief moment, a Black Lives Matter supporter engaged with a Back the Blue supporter of law enforcement, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Supporters of law enforcement gather at Back the Blue rally, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Emma Clawson and her mother Glenda weep as Heidi Knickerbocker (not pictured) sings a song about an officer who dies in the line of duty at Back the Blue rally in support of law enforcement, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square. There are two law enforcement officers in the Clawson family.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Supporters of law enforcement gather at Back the Blue rally, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.

(Leah Hogsten | The Salt Lake Tribune) Supporters of law enforcement gather at Back the Blue rally, Saturday, August 15, 2020 at Washington Square.
Protesters at competing rallies for and against the police on Saturday managed to agree on one thing: Neither likes the reforms imposed by Salt Lake City Mayor Erin Mendenhall.
Police supporters say they go too far, while critics of police violence say they are too weak.
“They definitely don’t go far enough,” said Dave Newlin, an organizer of a Utah Against Police Brutality rally at the Salt Lake City police station. It attracted about 100 protesters on Saturday.
Alternatively, several groups who organized a “Back the Blue” rally at City Hall (which, ironically, was not coordinated by a group of that same name) posted online that Mendenhall restricted police “from doing their jobs and protecting Salt Lake City during violent riots and unlawful assemblies,” and called on people to show police that “we have their back and support them.” That rally drew around 75 people.
Earlier this month, Mendenhall signed an executive order to require such things as strengthening requirements for body cameras, narrowing parameters for when police can use force, and requiring a person’s consent for searches without warrants. Reforms also require use of de-escalation techniques before using force or making an arrest
A police union later called many of Mendenhall’s orders “dangerous experiments that do not have any scientific evidence to support them.”
Protesters for and against the police weighed in about the reforms Saturday.
Newlin, a former Salt Lake Tribune employee with Utah Against Police Brutality, said in an interview that the mayor’s orders “aren’t exactly bad and most of them already were in place.” But, he said, “This isn’t what we asked for.”
Instead, “We’ve been calling for what we call community control of police strength,” including electing an independent board — separate from city and police control — to oversee police.
His group’s rally on Saturday focused on people who died recently at the hands of police, especially Richie Santiago, who was shot and killed by police a year ago in a car outside his apartment.
Salt Lake County District Attorney Sim Gill ruled the shooting was justified after body camera footage showed that Santiago pulled a gun.
Newlin disagrees with that conclusion and said, “This was a totally unjustified murder, and we’ve got to put a stop to it.”

(Trent Nelson | The Salt Lake Tribune) Bobbie Santiago, mother of Riche Antonio Santiago, is embraced by Jeanette Padilla at a rally against police brutality at the Public Safety Building in Salt Lake City on Saturday, Aug. 15, 2020.

(Trent Nelson | The Salt Lake Tribune) Rae Duckworth, cousin of Bobby Duckworth, speaks at a rally against police brutality at the Public Safety Building in Salt Lake City on Saturday, Aug. 15, 2020.

(Trent Nelson | The Salt Lake Tribune) Bobbie Santiago, mother of Riche Antonio Santiago, speaks at a rally against police brutality at the Public Safety Building in Salt Lake City on Saturday, Aug. 15, 2020.

(Trent Nelson | The Salt Lake Tribune) Bobbie Santiago, mother of Riche Antonio Santiago, at a rally against police brutality at the Public Safety Building in Salt Lake City on Saturday, Aug. 15, 2020.

(Trent Nelson | The Salt Lake Tribune) Members of Hussein Al-Rekabi's family at a rally against police brutality at the Public Safety Building in Salt Lake City on Saturday, Aug. 15, 2020.

(Trent Nelson | The Salt Lake Tribune) Buttons on a speaker at a rally against police brutality at the Public Safety Building in Salt Lake City on Saturday, Aug. 15, 2020.
Organizers of the Back the Blue rally, meanwhile, had posted online, “Time and time again, protesters have illegally blocked traffic on major roads, they have cost taxpayers $200,000 in public building damages, and the police have been instructed to stand down while this happens. It’s time to call Mayor Mendenhall out for not supporting the police.”
Skye Christensen, an organizer of the event and member of a group called The Blue Line Unites Everyone, said in an interview that while the online invitation had criticized Mendenhall, the event was mostly intended to show police that they have community support.
“We want to show these police officers there are people that are willing to stand and show them support and love during these really hard times,” she said. “This event is just about positivity and bringing these officers some love.”
Other speakers at the pro-police rally said the event also sought to try to close divisions in the city and nation.
“We need to close the gap when it comes to the divide and hate going on. We are not each other’s enemy,” Shannon Macinnes, with a group called Civilized Awakening, said in an interview. “I think there is absolutely a middle ground for unity. I think there is a middle ground to discuss reform options without having to abolish the police.”
James Sullivan, also with Civilized Awakening, said in an interview, “I don’t exactly agree with what Erin Mendenhall has been doing” with the police department and “taking away support from them during these times.” But he said he wants to help push unity in the community, and help all sides look at the root of violence involving police to help stop it.