Tribune editorial cartoonist Pat Bagley faced some backlash recently for one of his cartoons. On this episode of ‘Trib Talk,’ Tribune editorial page editor George Pyle talks with Bagley and Utah Peace Officers Association President Bruce Champagne on the meaning behind the cartoon, the offense taken by it and how to discuss police reform in the future.

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