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Utah veterans hope gov’s plan won’t set back those who served
State government » Reorganization of Veterans Affairs would add economic development emphasis; veterans are worried about dual role.
First Published Feb 27 2013 09:34 am • Last Updated May 21 2013 11:35 pm

Prominent veterans have been critical of Gov. Gary Herbert’s plan to reorganize the Utah Department of Veterans Affairs — and put an economic development expert in charge — fearing it will erode the state’s ability to help those who served their country.

The reorganization, which is spelled out in legislation still being written on Capitol Hill, would give the department another mission: working with military installations threatened by federal budget cuts, such as Hill Air Force Base, Dugway Proving Ground and Tooele Army Depot.

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The bill, to be carried by Rep. Greg Hughes, R-Draper, would also weaken the role played by the Veterans Advisory Council in picking the executive director.

On Monday, council chairman Frank Maughan said combining economic development and caring for veterans "is a span of control that’s almost undoable. I haven’t talked to a single veteran from 94 to 24 who thinks this is a good idea."

But after a Wednesday afternoon meeting with Hughes and Mike Mower, the governor’s deputy chief of staff, Maughan agreed to join them in signing a statement that reads, "We are confident this bill will strengthen the department and further our mission to support Utah’s veterans and their families."

W.L. "Bill" Dunlap, commander of the Utah Department of the American Legion also attended the meeting and signed the statement.

But Dunlap said in an interview Wednesday evening that time will tell whether it’s good for veterans to combine veterans affairs with military affairs.

"That’s one of the those things we’re not going to know for a couple years," the Vietnam veteran said. "It’s doable…. [but] ask me in two years."

Maughan, also a Vietnam veteran, agreed. "You don’t know until you put it into practice," he said.

"I’m a pragmatist," Maughan added Wednesday evening. "There are some fights you go into knowing that things are not going to go your way but it’s important to make the effort. We have done everything we can to be able to represent the 167,000 veterans in this state."


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Utah disbanded its Veterans Affairs Department in 1978, after the Vietnam War had been over for several years, and it wasn’t until the mid-1990s that it was restored as a small office. It gradually became a division of another agency and in 2007, Gov. Jon Huntsman made it a department and its director, Terry Schow, joined the governor’s cabinet. Utah has an estimated 175,000 veterans.

Herbert announced in December that Schow will retire in June and signaled that he had picked his replacement, Gary Harter, a retired Army colonel who headed up the military cluster in the Governor’s Office of Economic Development.

That move angered Maughan and other veterans, who say that the governor came close to violating state statute. The Veterans Advisory Council, by law, is to whittle a list of applicants down and recommend finalists to the governor.

The new legislation would give the governor the right to pick his own director, Maughan said.

The goal of the reorganization is improving coordination and outreach, and to "optimize all resources" for veterans, said Ally Isom, Herbert’s deputy chief of staff.

"Anyone who speaks with Gary Harter quickly learns this is his focus and this change is not only a good thing, but the right thing for veterans and all military personnel," she said in a statement.

Harter has not formally been tapped as executive director, and has been working this winter as the governor’s adviser on military and veterans affairs. "Would I be interested? Absolutely," Harter said Tuesday evening. "The process that’s laid out currently in statute has to go through the Veterans Advisory Council. I’m not going to usurp the provision in statute."

The new configuration of the department "is not a diminishment. It’s an expansion," he said.

Jobs are the big issue on the minds of many returning veterans, and they’ll have a better chance nailing civilian jobs on bases if the department is in close contact with military installations, he said.

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