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George Pyle
George Pyle has been a newspaper writer in Kansas, Utah, Upstate New York, and now Utah again, for more than 30 years - most of it as an editorial writer and columnist. Now on his second tour of duty on The Salt Lake Tribune Editorial Board, he has also done a stretch as a talk radio host, published a book on the ongoing flaws of U.S.agricultural policy and, in 1998, was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for Editorial Writing. His most active bookmarks are Andrew Sullivan, Christopher Hitchens and Tina Brown. And he still thinks the Internet can be used for intelligent conversation and uplifting ideas.

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(Chris Detrick | The Salt Lake Tribune) Members of Utah Unites for Marriage gather outside of the Governor's Mansion in Salt Lake City Wednesday July 9, 2014. Utah Unites for Marriage delivered more than 3,800 signatures collected on a petition urging Governor Gary Herbert and Attorney General Sean Reyes to end their "relentless court fight to stop same-sex marriage and deny legally married couples recognition and access to second-parent adoptions."
On the Marriage Equality front: Discredited researcher tries (again) to stand athwart history ...


The people who oppose marriage equality have trotted out a person whose sociological research has been firmly and resounding discredited in an attempt to discredit some other sociologists’ research.

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Is Same-Sex Parenting Better for Kids? The New Australian Study Can’t Tell Us — Mark Regnerus | The Witherspoon Institute

"The Australian Study of Child Health in Same-Sex Families has been getting copious positive press coverage. Unfortunately, it has some serious methodological weaknesses — it studies only the lives and experiences of the LGBT elite. ..."

[h/t The Sutherland Institute]

This is what he’s on about:

Largest-ever study of same-sex couples’ kids finds they’re better off than other children — German Lopez | Vox

Regnerus may well have a point about an overly small, and overly comfortable, sample used by the Australian data-crunchers. After all, when everyone in your survey is rich and well-educated, is that really representative of the whole culture? Money, after all, changes everything.

But couldn’t these guys find anyone else to make that point?

What Does Mark Regnerus Want? — By Nathaniel Frank | Slate

"You might think that a researcher who was repudiated by his own department, caught lying about the role of funding in his research, and generally made the laughing stock of serious scholars in his field would lay low for a while. ...

"But if you were speaking of Mark Regnerus, you’d be wrong. ..."

Amendment 3’s hired guns backfire on Utah: Utah’s ‘experts’ have no credibility — Salt Lake Tribune Editorial, 3/26/14

" ... Late last week, another federal judge declared that Michigan’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, the Michigan Marriage Amendment, was unconstitutional. ...

" ... After the judge had taken all that in, he not only ruled against the ban, he also ruled that the ‘experts’ who testified in favor of keeping it were, basically, liars. ..."

Marriage studies are tangled web of deception — Chris Wangsgard | For The Salt Lake Tribune, 3/29/14

Or maybe it takes a person who makes grand assertions about how individual human beings do — and should — live based on tiny samples of people living messy, real lives to point out that someone else is doing the same thing.

In which case, we will have to make the decision on ethical and constitutional principals, not faux scientific certitude.

Like this:

Colorado judge rules same-sex marriage ban unconstitutional — AP | sltrib.com

"Denver • A Colorado judge on Wednesday struck down the state’s gay marriage ban, making him the 16th judge to invalidate a state’s prohibition on same-sex marriages in the past year.

"District Judge C. Scott Crabtree put his ruling on hold pending an appeal, but wrote that the provisions in Colorado law clearly violate the state and U.S. constitutions. "There is no rational relationship between any legitimate governmental purpose and the marriage bans," he wrote. ...

Denver clerk begins issuing same-sex marriage licenses — The Denver Post

Judge allowing gay marriage in Colorado adds to confusion — AP | sltrib.com

Another hit against Colorado’s gay marriage ban — Denver Post Editorial

"A state court judge’s ruling Wednesday that Colorado’s gay marriage ban is unconstitutional is a welcome addition to a growing compendium of decisions recognizing the fundamental unfairness of such bans. ..."


Utah appealing gay-marriage case directly to Supreme Court — Marissa Lang | The Salt Lake Tribune

It would have been better, of course, if the state had dropped its defense of its anti-equality Amendment 3. But taking the case directly to the Supremes, rather than make another, probably futile, run at the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals will cut many months off the process.

AG Office to Take Amendment 3 Case to Supreme Court: The Possible Outcomes — Curtis Haring | Utah Political Capitol

The experienced court watchers at SCOTUSblog boldly predict:

"SCOTUS will act on the Utah #ssm petition by late-2014, likely grant it, hear argument in March 2015, and rule (5-4) in June 2015"

But they don’t predict who will win.


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