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George Pyle
George Pyle has been a newspaper writer in Kansas, Utah, Upstate New York, and now Utah again, for more than 30 years - most of it as an editorial writer and columnist. Now on his second tour of duty on The Salt Lake Tribune Editorial Board, he has also done a stretch as a talk radio host, published a book on the ongoing flaws of U.S.agricultural policy and, in 1998, was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for Editorial Writing. His most active bookmarks are Andrew Sullivan, Christopher Hitchens and Tina Brown. And he still thinks the Internet can be used for intelligent conversation and uplifting ideas.

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(Al Hartmann | The Salt Lake Tribune) Duane Call Sr. expresses his frustration with the present caucus convention system in Utah during public comment at Count My Vote Utah's first public hearing at the Provo Library Wednesday, October 16. He said that the present system frustrates him from running for office in either political party. He would prefer a primary election system. The Count My Vote campaign must have seven public hearings before it can begin its petition drive. If the campaign gets enough signatures, voters will decide whether to change the caucus and convention system in favor of a primary election to select candidates.
Count My Vote counts supporters, opponents ...

Legislature should not hinder Count My Vote initiative — Salt Lake Tribune Editorial

" It is to be expected that people who have risen to positions of power will be fiercely loyal to the system that got them there. "You got to dance with them what brung you," as they say in Texas.

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"But Utah’s uniquely undemocratic caucus and convention system has produced a ruling class that is out of touch with the will of the people of Utah. And now some of those leaders in the Legislature want to torpedo the Count My Vote initiative petition drive just as it nears its first level of success. ..."

Big boost: Mitt Romney backs Count My Vote — Robert Gehrke | The Salt Lake Tribune

"The Count My Vote initiative got some big-name support from perhaps the most popular political figure in the state, former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, who also criticized efforts by the Legislature to preempt the initiative, saying it ‘feels very wrong’...."

Don’t kill Count My Vote, pols — Ogden Standard-Examiner Editorial (With a new Grondahl cartoon!)

"... Now, State Sen. Curt Bramble, R-Provo, is trying to maneuver through the Legislature Senate Bill 54, which would take away the rights of Utahns to have primary votes, even if the Count My Vote initiative is passed. This is very cynical politics, even for Utah, and it should be stopped. ..."

Count My Vote: ‘Let the process play out’ — Robert Bennett | For The Deseret News

"The fight over the Count My Vote initiative began when the petitioners — those unhappy with the current caucus/convention/primary system — asked the officials — those holding elected as well as party positions of power — to consider abolishing it.

"The officials said no. ..."

SB 54 is a Political Life or Death Matter for Lawmakers — Bob Bernick | Utah Policy

" ... Through their media campaign, it appears to me the CMV supporters are looking at a repeat of the HB477 legislative disaster of 2011 to somehow kill SB54.

" But it’s not going to happen with Bramble’s bill. ..."



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