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Clinton could win the debate and still lose with voters. Trump Jr. visits Utah. Poll: Utahns divided on Bears Ears.

Happy Thursday. Hillary Clinton will almost certainly win Monday night's epic presidential debate on points — and still could lose. It's hard to see how Clinton, who has marinated in public policy for 30 years and is preparing for the debate like it is the invasion of Normandy, won't repeatedly best Donald Trump on substance. But, and this is the big point: Trump has a significant built-in advantage in that there is a lower standard for him — Trump can win by clearing a bar of acceptability, whereas Clinton has to do more than that and either significantly wound Trump or make a compellingly positive case for herself that has so far eluded her in both 2008 and 2016. [<a href="http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/how-trump-could-win-the-debate-214272">Politico</a>]

<strong>Topping the news: </strong>Donald Trump Jr. held a fundraiser in Utah on Wednesday where he told Republican leaders that his father's values of family and work ethic line up with Utah's, that a personal visit from Trump before the election was unlikely, and that his Skittles tweet was blown out of proportion. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4382207-155/donald-trumps-son-in-utah-for?page=1"; target="_blank">Trib</a>] [<a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865662960/Donald-Trump-Jr-says-father-running-on-values-held-dear-by-Utahns.html"; target="_blank">DNews</a>]

 

-> The day before a scheduled St. George debate, Democratic Attorney General candidate Jon Harper withdrew from the race for health reasons. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4379903-155/jon-harper-stuns-utah-democratic-party?page=1"; target="_blank">Trib</a>] [<a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865662956/Democrat-Jon-Harper-withdraws-from-Utah-attorney-generals-race.html"; target="_blank">DNews</a>] [<a href="http://fox13now.com/2016/09/21/utah-attorney-general-candidate-jon-harper-withdraws-from-race/"; target="_blank">Fox13</a>] [<a href="http://www.good4utah.com/news/local-news/jon-harper-drops-out-of-race-for-attorney-general"; target="_blank">ABC4</a>] [<a href="http://kutv.com/news/local/ag-candidate-drops-out-reyes-accused-of-thwarting-investigation"; target="_blank">KUTV</a>] [<a href="http://kuer.org/post/democratic-attorney-general-candidate-withdraws-debate-still-happening#stream/0"; target="_blank">KUER</a>] [<a href="http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/utah-democratic-attorney-general-candidate-drops-out-of-race/article_4031b108-0b52-562f-8dcc-2b81548e8f97.html"; target="_blank">Herald</a>]

-> Utah leaders argued against monument designation for the Bears Ears area and in favor of Rep. Rob Bishop's Public Lands Initiative at the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, and a survey shows that Utahns are split almost evenly on the issue. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4382066-155/utah-voters-split-on-bears-ears?fullpage=1"; target="_blank">Trib</a>] [<a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865663017/Anti-monument-rally-Please-dont-take-this-land-from-us.html"; target="_blank">DNews</a>] [<a href="http://kuer.org/post/utah-delegation-navajos-ask-president-back-monument-designation#stream/0"; target="_blank">KUER</a>]

-> Records show that law firms representing Utah in a lawsuit with the federal government over land put over-the-top travel charges on the state bill but also didn't report other acceptable expenses that totaled even more. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4382237-155/federal-lands-lawsuirt-firms-sometimes-charged"; target="_blank">Trib</a>] [<a href="http://kutv.com/news/local/lawyers-for-public-lands-fight-reimburse-utah-for-nearly-6k"; target="_blank">KUTV</a>]

<strong>Tweet of the day: </strong>From @<a href="https://twitter.com/RobertGehrke"; target="_blank">RobertGehrke</a>: "When he met @DonaldJTrumpJr today, @gopTODD offered Jr. Skittles. Jr. 'politely declined.' maybe he thought they were poisoned."

<strong>Happy Birthday: </strong>to The Salt Lake Tribune's own Tommy Burr.

<strong>In other news: </strong>The Utah Legislature will likely hold a special session in November to pass a bill that will fix mistakes in the gas-tax formula that have caused Utah cities and towns to be collectively underpaid in revenue by $8.5 million. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4381413-155/special-session-of-utah-legislature-likely"; target="_blank">Trib</a>]

-> Utah Sen. Howard Stephenson will introduce a bill in the 2017 legislative session putting a cap on the amount of new property taxes a school district can give to economic-development areas set up to attract businesses, a problem that riddled the West Jordan Facebook data center deal. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4381881-155/senator-protect-school-property-taxes-from"; target="_blank">Trib</a>] [<a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865663025/Fallout-of-a-failed-deal-State-leaders-hope-to-learn-from-Facebook-negotiations.html"; target="_blank">DNews</a>]

-> Don Ipson will take retiring Sen. Steve Urquhart's place and Walt Brooks will fill in for Ipson in House District 75. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4381987-155/ipson-appointed-to-replace-urquhart-brooks"; target="_blank">Trib</a>]

-> Utah Transit Riders Union called on Wednesday for the appointed, 16-member Utah Transit Authority board to be replaced by elected officials to restore trust in the agency. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4382148-155/watchdog-group-calls-for-uta-board"; target="_blank">Trib</a>]

-> Road Home Executive Director Matt Minkevitch says that the construction of two new 250-bed homeless shelters in Salt Lake City, which leaders are working through kinks on now, will not mean the crime-ridden facility on Rio Grande Street can bow out. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4381123-155/new-homeless-shelters-or-not-the?page=1"; target="_blank">Trib</a>]

-> District 11 school board candidates Lisa Cummins and Erin Preston hashed out questions of the ultimate goal of public education and how to treat special education in a Tuesday debate. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4378247-155/critical-thinking-or-character-utah-school?page=1"; target="_blank">Trib</a>]

-> District 7 candidates for the Utah State School board Shelly Teuscher and Carol Barlow-Lear talked relationship with the Legislature in the fourth of eight school board debates. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4383051-155/utah-school-board-candidates-describe-distrust"; target="_blank">Trib</a>]

-> A U.S. District Judge wants to rule as soon as possible before the election on a lawsuit where Navajo groups accused San Juan County of restricting their access to polling booths. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4380456-155/judge-to-rule-on-navajo-complaint"; target="_blank">Trib</a>] [<a href="http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865663022/Navajos-ask-federal-judge-to-restore-polling-places-in-Utah.html"; target="_blank">DNews</a>]

-> Atlantic Richfield Company Inc., a refinery with a plant in Tooele, agreed to pay the Environmental Protection Agency $560,000 in reimbursements for federal cleanup of toxic metals in the soil. [<a href="http://www.sltrib.com/news/4382628-155/company-to-pay-epa-560000-for"; target="_blank">Trib</a>]

<strong>Nationally:</strong> In a town hall-style meeting at a church in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, on Wednesday, Donald Trump praised stop-and-frisk as a successful crime-fighting tactic. Stop-and-frisks have sparked controversy and have even been ruled unconstitutional for their tendency to target minorities. [<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/us/politics/donald-trump-don-king-black-voters.html?ref=politics&_r=0"; target="_blank">NYTimes</a>] [<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/21/trump-embraces-stop-and-frisk-policing-tactic-that-critics-say-unfairly-targets-minorities/"; target="_blank">WaPost</a>] [<a href="http://time.com/4503315/donald-trump-stop-frisk/"; target="_blank">Time</a>]

-> Hillary Clinton gave a speech in Orlando on Wednesday directed at people with disabilities, promising better employment integration for them during her presidency. According to the CDC, one in five Americans has a disability, making the community an important one for Clinton to appeal to. [<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-makes-an-unusual-push-to-win-over-disabled-people-and-their-families/2016/09/21/41f15962-8012-11e6-8d0c-fb6c00c90481_story.html"; target="_blank">WaPost</a>] [<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/us/politics/hillary-clinton-speech.html?ref=politics"; target="_blank">NYTimes</a>] [<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/21/politics/hillary-clinton-economy-disabled/index.html"; target="_blank">CNN</a>]

-> Independent candidate Evan McMullin talks about what policies he would employ to fight terrorism and calm police–public tensions domestically. [<a href="http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/video/mcmullin-shares-his-plans-to-fight-isis-770346051742"; target="_blank">NBCNews</a>]

-> Senate Finance Committee staffer Jim Lyons collapsed during a charity basketball game in a "massive episode of cardiac arrest," according to Sen. Orrin Hatch. [<a href="http://www.rollcall.com/news/hoh/senate-staffer-suffers-cardiac-arrest-charity-basketball-game"; target="_blank">RollCall</a>]

<strong>Where are they?</strong>

<ul>

<li>Rep. Jason <strong><a href="https://twitter.com/jasoninthehouse"; target="_blank">Chaffetz</a></strong> chats with representatives from Utah Credit Union and votes.</li>

<li>Rep. Chris <strong><a href="https://twitter.com/RepChrisStewart"; target="_blank">Stewart</a></strong> attends a House Intelligence Committee briefing, addresses the Salt Lake Chamber of Commerce, votes and meets with the U.S. Air Force.</li>

<li>Rep. Mia <a href="https://twitter.com/RepMiaLove"; target="_blank"><strong>Love</strong></a> hits a Financial Services hearing, meets with credit union employees and votes.</li>

<li>Gov. Gary <strong><a href="https://twitter.com/GovHerbert"; target="_blank">Herbert</a></strong> holds meetings in Washington.</li>

<li>Lt. Gov. Spencer <strong><a href="https://twitter.com/SpencerJCox"; target="_blank">Cox</a></strong> swings by a Social Services Appropriation Committee, the Women Tech Awards and the Denver Metro Chamber Leadership Foundation.</li>

<li>State Auditor John <strong><a href="https://twitter.com/FrugalDougall"; target="_blank">Dougall</a> </strong>presents to the Natural Resources and Agriculture Appropriations subcommittee on the Utah Dairy Commission audit results and answers questions from the Social Services Appropriations subcommittee on the Department of Workforce Services improvement in food stamp oversight.</li>

<li>President Barack <strong><a href="https://twitter.com/BarackObama"; target="_blank">Obama</a> </strong>awards the 2015 National Medal of Arts and the National Humanities Medal before heading to the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture with Michelle Obama for a Good Morning America interview.</li>

</ul>

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